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I think this page needs to state that true black hair doesn't actually exist and that it's just a very dark shade of brown as i like to call it, virtually black, and i think it should state that the darkest shade of hair (as close to black as possible) exists within people of non-european ancestry/non-caucasians, a european/caucasian with virtually black hair will not be as dark as an african or asian with virtually black hair, this is due to all europeans/caucasians having some sort of blonde ancestry -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.147.166 (talk) 08:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
The way this article refers to black hair is as if it actually exists when it doesn't, I strongly think that this page needs to say black hair is common among non-Caucasians and that it's technically an extremely dark brown which is why brunette (brown) is a commonly used term to refer to virtually black hair and that a more appropriate term for virtually black hair is noirette or raven head. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.147.166 (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
This is a completely ridiculous qualification. There are no true blackbodies in nature, and in fact, there are also no materials with a truly flat absorption spectrum. Therefore, if we restrict the word "black" to only blackbodies, then we have to call every single object commonly called black something to the effect of "extremely dark [insert hue]". I've seen my hair after getting a haircut. It is darker than my black leather shoes and my black plastic laptop charger. It's as dark as matte black spray paint and my suit jacket. If you went into photoshop to digitally lighten my hair until its hue became visible, it's as likely to come out green or purple as brown. My hair is not unusual or unique, and I know many people whose hair is similarly dark. The disclaimer that black hair is a myth is confusing and optically meaningless. The only meaning I can think of for it to have (which is not given in the article) is that black and brown hair share the same eumelanin allele genotype. However, seeing as black hair is more common, earlier in evolutionary history, and more representative of the eumelanin phenotype, it is clearly more appropriate to say that brown hair is an intermediate between black and blonde hair with the addition of some moderate pheomelanin.
On a final note: In a culture that is happy to call European skin "white" and African skin "black", are we really going to refuse to call a colour that is actually very close to black by its most descriptive name? appa609 (talk) 11:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Will Black Hair Look Good On Me Video
Indo-Europeans in Lithuania immediately went blonde from black
Then lots of people died out, there's a mutation, low food supply, mass population reduction, genetic drift, selective pressure against black and for blonde because of distinction and that blonde turns gray much later, and that's the explanation. Brown hair is a heterozygous condition. Redheadness is when the auburn allele is expressed with a blonde allele. In Indo-European places like Iran and even India, you'll find many people with a mix of red and dark in their hair because they lack the blonde allele --75.159.2.59 (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Corrections
Africans have the most ancient alleles (genes), which means they are the most genetically diverse. Therefore, Africans can have curly, straight coarse, wavy hair textures and ranging from jet black to red, brown, or blonde. Black, red, brown and blonde hair colors are also found among indigenous Australians, as well. Blonde hair existed among African populations before migrations to other continents where human geographical adaptation ocurred. Ariagia 04:42 Ariagia (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
it's most genetically diverse because Africa is multi racial continent. most genetically diverse means most multi-racial not most ancient, which makes no sense. -Leonidas-
Some minor tweaking
Someone included a picture of an Aeta woman and said she was of African descent, so I decided to go ahead and get a better picture (of a much prettier lady at that!) while I was editing. ~~X-Calator 02:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Question
What the hell does the statement ...africa, india and asia have black hair. Is India out of Asia? Maquahuitl 07:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
i don't know either... is it still there??Australian Jezza 08:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Nonsensical
"with completely black or deep black"... someone tell me the difference 134.82.90.100 03:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
lately heard of black brown, soft black and like pure black. a lot of black-haired ppl, like me, will show certian tone under the sunlight, but some wont. anyone have more idea?--MeowKun | Meowi Talk 02:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Consensus?
The edit summary for this new page claimed that this page was created after a consensus decision. Could someone link me to this consensus?--HubHikari 18:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Western popular culture section
Interesting topic, but this section needs sources and some discussion of other attitudes to black hair. What about Snow White, for instance? See [1]. Or the 'tall, dark and handsome' cliché hero? --HJMG 16:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Japanese Schools
The part about Japanese schools forcing students with naturally different-colored hair to dye their hair black sounds suspicious. There are plenty of Japanese with naturally brown or red hair,No, Japenese people Only Have Black hair, your wrong and I find it hard to believe that schools force them to dye it black. What, do they get suspended if the go too long between dye-jobs and their light roots start to show?
Since it's unsourced and uncited, I'm going to remove it until someone has more info. Roland Deschain 14:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, im Chinese, and when i was young im have like natural chestnut brown hair with like a little red or blond streal, according to my mom. When i was young i have teacher asked me if my dyed my hair and kids pick different colour in my hair. then when i get older my hair do turn darker yet i still have like highlight and blond hair and so on, i am not sure if that is the case. --MeowKun | Meowi Talk 02:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- My fiancee is Japanese and her sister has naturally red hair. It's not red the way someone from my (Irish-American) family would have red hair, but red nonetheless. Roland Deschain 05:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Photos, Phonecians and 'Fros
Just explaining a few changes I've made:
- Whoever removed the picture of the Asian guy gave no reason, so I put him back at the top of the page. I like this pic because it clearly shows the hair. I also added the pic of the goth girl, because it seemed relevant to the "Culture" bit (got that pic from the gothic subculture article). I removed the photos of celebs (Pierce Brosnan, John Travolta, Steven Saunders and Elvis Presley) because they didn't really add anything and it was just a long column of pics with no text beside them. Maybe if the article grows they can be added again to give a bit of color.
- I took out the sentence: "This anthropological strain is believed to originate from a mixture between the dark Phoenician settlers and the blue-eyed Celtic invaders." (in relation to black hair in Ireland and Britain). There was no source for this and I find it unlikely that the Phonecians added any significant genes to these populations. Feel free to reinstate the sentence if you find a reliable source.
- I added a bit about hair texture. In particular, I thought the link to afro textured hair was relevant.Fionah 14:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Black or possibly brown?
When you look closely at African, Mediterranean, Arabian and Indians you can see that its dark brunette, not really black. Does this means that they are actually not black hair? East Asian have the darkest black hair, its virtually jet black. CanCanDuo 07:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
it just called black hair even though it is just really extremely dark brown hair, this is because with out putting light straight into your hair, or the sun is straight in you hair, it looks blackAustralian Jezza 08:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Having truly black hair, or black anything is next to impossible, to have proper black hair it would have to absorb all frequencies of light which only a few objects are capable of. So yeah, black hair is really just very dark brown hair, it's why some black hair dyes look really strange, it's because they use dark blue instead of dark brown to create the look of black hair. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.59.96 (talk) 11:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Copyedit
I've made some much-needed copy-edits to this article. I reorganized content, and removed some redundant or senseless content (see my HTML comments in the article).
The article is either completely OR or is simply undercited. I have tagged the article accordingly. --Otheus 22:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Is this for real?
The original hair colour of Homo sapiens?
Lunakeet 20:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
All great apes have black hair, except for Orangutans (apes that have no souls). --75.159.2.59 (talk) 22:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Other hair colors?
Do some people have hair color that is outside of the range of the human visual spectrum? like somebody might have infrared hair, or ultraviolet hair. sometimes i look at bald people and think they might just have a whole mane of hair emitting a wavelength of like 2.4 Ghz. i might try to get bald people to come over and see if they interfere with my phones or wireless LAN.
seriously, it's possible.
66.190.142.200 (talk) 08:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
brunettes are definetely dominate to blondes --Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.15.122 (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
That is ridiculous, to you their hair may look transparent, but your implying that blad guys have invisible hair ?????? --75.159.2.59 (talk) 22:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Lacking many details
This article is very short and poorly detailed compared to the ones on red hair and blonde hair. Can't we provide more more for this page? Especially someone made a comment about pop culture references such as "tall dark and handsome" being left out on this page, as well as notable dark-haired people such as Snow White, Harry Potter (character) ( his mom got a mention in the red hair article by the way, along with the Weasleys and Albus Dumbledore, whom I didn't even know was a red-head) Amy Lee of Evanescence, Elizabeth Taylor among many other references in pop and general culture as well. Even the scientific part of the article (which is basically the whole article) is very short form. It's practically a stub. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 22:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Pierce Brosnan, Jennifer Connelly, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Courteney Cox Arquette, Demi Moore, Michael Ballack
These actors all have dark brown to very dark brown hair NOT black. I am removing Pierce Brosnan from this list. Also, his natural hair is a very dark chestnut brown, but now dyes it a very dark warm brown (like Jennifer Connelly's and Demi Moore's).--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 01:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
VERY DARK BROWN HAIR (German Michael Ballack) - I am deleting his photo, too, since dark brown hair can appear almost black in some light. His photo does NOT belong under Black hair. Just look up his photos in google images or yahoo images.--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 06:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
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